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The thing is,
whenever I look at a political movement,
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especially ideological,
I think,
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okay,
there's a bunch of things your for fine,
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what are you against?
You know,
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because one of the things that people
who adopted need theological position,
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like to presume is that all of the right
is on their site and that makes them
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very unconscious up their shadow.
Let's say from a union perspective.
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The Nazis had all sorts of positive
reasons for what they were doing,
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but you know,
the negative reasons were there too and
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you could easily make it a case that the
negative reasons were really the
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reasons.
And when I look at video logs,
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I always think,
yeah,
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yeah,
that's what you're for sure,
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but I don't believe all the good people
are on your site and be.
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I know that negative motivations are
more powerful than positive ones.
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So you say you're for things,
but you're against them too.
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So let's,
let's start with that.
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So I thought I started thinking about
this after I read George Orwell.
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I love George Orwell,
by the way.
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How many of you know who George Orwell
is?
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Wow.
Really?
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That's impressive.
How many don't.
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Okay,
well that's,
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that's good.
That's amazing.
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How the hell did you learn about George
Orwell's?
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Nineteen 84.
Fundamentally,
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or animal farm?
Animal Farm.
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Okay.
Okay.
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Well that's good because George Orwell,
man,
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I tell you,
George Orwell was the first western
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intellectual who figured out what the
hell was going on in the Soviet Union.
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And he did that in the mid forties,
early.
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You know what was complicated because we
sort of knew what was happening in the
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twenties and the thirties,
you know,
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there was lennon and that wasn't so
good.
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There was the Russian civil war,
there was the idea of universal
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communism that wasn't such a good idea,
you know,
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for,
as far as people who didn't want to be
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communists were concerned.
And then there was what happened in the
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Ukraine in the 1930.
So it was like,
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you know,
the evidence was starting to pile up.
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But unfortunately what happened was the
Spanish civil war and the lefties were
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pretty much the good guys in the Spanish
civil war.
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Right.
It was like a microcosm of the Second
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World War.
The lefties were fighting the fascists
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and some of the lefties were communists,
but a lot of them were also people who
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were,
I think genuinely fighting for freedom
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and a lot of North American literary
figures went to Spain to fight on the
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side of the.
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No,
you know,
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against the fascists.
And so fair enough,
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you know,
the fascist were obviously,
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you know,
reprehensible clearly and so and so that
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kind of muddied the water right because
the fastest were bad.
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And then that sort of means that people
that are fighting them,
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their garden and some of them are
communists and there was good.
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There was pretty good reason for people
to be radical socialist at that point in
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human history because the plight of the
working man was relatively unpleasant.
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George Orwell wrote a book called road
to Wigan Pier and he went up to this
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town that was a coal mining town and he,
he stayed with the coal miners for
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awhile and just looked at their life.
So here,
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here's a part of their life.
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So you work at seven and a half hour
shift when you're a coal miner and you
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think,
oh,
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that's not too bad by 1930 standards.
It's like,
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yeah,
except you have to go down to the coal
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mine tunnels,
you know,
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and like they're not eight feet high and
carpeted there like four and a half feet
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high and rough and poorly lit and the
ers terrible.
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And so basically you have to chimp walk
or crawl up to three miles just to get
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to work and then you have to do that at
the end of your shift and you don't get
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paid for that.
That's just,
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that's your commute,
right?
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Right.
So you know,
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it was no bloody well.
And then of course what you're doing
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when you get there,
it's like it's absolutely filthy.
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It's unbelievably noisy.
It's brutally difficult.
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He said the coal miners,
they have no teeth because they're like,
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because of their living conditions,
but their bodies were absolutely
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perfect.
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They were unbelievably powerful and
strong because all they did was
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incredibly intense physical labor,
but it was bloody rough.
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And the housing,
those people had like 50 families for
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one outhouse,
that's probably good enough to describe
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it.
And often they were row houses and the
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row houses had no back doors that may
add no pass between them.
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And all the old houses were at the back.
So that meant if you were was like 20
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below and it was the winter and you were
sick,
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then you get to go all the way around
the block to your damn.
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I will tell us where maybe there's only
one there and you line up with 50 people
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so that.
Yeah.
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So in order while he was orwell was an
upper class guy basically,
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and he was trying to help themselves
overcome these upperclass prejudices who
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is a real documentary,
one of the terrible working conditions
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of,
of,
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of working class people.
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And he wrote this book called Road to
Wigan Pier.
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But one of the things that or will said,
he wrote this story about these poor God
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damn coal miners and you think,
well yeah,
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it's like how about some social
legislation so that these people and
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their children aren't just absolutely
brutalized nonstop.
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You know.
But then he wrote the last half of the
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book and he wrote it for the left book
club,
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which was a socialist group that we
publish a book every month or so.
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And what he did was he.
He wrote a critique of socialism of
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pretty socialism and he said,
yeah,
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well this sucks man.
It's like we should be on the.
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Sorry to these working people,
but the social assigned meet,
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they're not on the side of the working
people.
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They're like tweed wearing middle class
hyper intellectuals who never go
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anywhere near the working class because
of their class.
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Prejudice isn't for all sorts of other
reasons and they don't like the poor at
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all.
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They just hate the rich.
And I thought I had been a member of the
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NDP for a long time.
At that point.
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It was always something a little off
about it.
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Especially the more radical kind that's
with you guys is it doesn't look like
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benevolence as far as I can tell.
There's a lot of whining and complaining
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and resentment.
It's like,
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what's that?
What's that about?
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I read Orwell and I thought,
right,
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if you hate the successful,
if you hate the rich,
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who are rich by the way is whoever has
more money than you.
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Right?
That's how you define rich and the best
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way to mask your resentment,
just to pretend that you're on the side
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of the poor.
And I read that.
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I thought that's exactly right.
And then that's part of also what made
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me psychoanalytically oriented because
one thing psychoanalysts always do
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always is if you say you're,
here's how I'm positively predisposed.
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The psychoanalyst says,
how are you using that to mask something
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easy and malevolent that you're doing?
And that's always.
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That's a very,
very useful questions.
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Not always correct,
right?
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But,
but it's correct a lot more than people
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generally like to think,
you know,
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it's like the mothering him grant the
mother or the witch in Hansel and
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Gretel.
You know the story,
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right?
This guy gets married,
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he's got a couple of kids.
His new wife doesn't relate to the kids.
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You have 100 times higher chance by the
way of being abused by a step parent
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than the biological parent.
Just so you know,
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so the step where they're just like the
kids,
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she tells the guy,
well,
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why don't you just go with those kids
out in the woods,
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sold out.
They go out in the woods.
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So they're lost kids,
right?
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They have nowhere to go.
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So when they're wandering around out
there in the forest,
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what happens?
They come across a gingerbread house.
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You think,
wow man,
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you're a starving kid.
Just your bread house.
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That's good news,
right?
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Not only is it a house,
but it's made out of candy.
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How could anything possibly be any
better?
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So when they go,
well,
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and then there's this grandmother type
type and you know,
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she's starts to fatten them up and she
puts,
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I think it's handling the cage and she
gets settled after a while to basically
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work as their scullery maid and equip
becomes quite obvious to the children
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that she's actually fattening them up so
that she can put them in the oven and
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eat them.
And so I think what Hansel does is I
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think gretel gives him this leg bone
from some animal and the old,
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which half blind and every time she
reaches into sort feel is laying,
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he gives her the bone and so like she's
just not all that interested in meeting
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them in anyways.
The kids ended up pushing her in the
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oven and closing it and getting the hell
out of there.
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So you know,
it's a happy ending as far as fairy
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tales school.
But it's an atypical story,
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right?
It's a classic story,
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but it needed whole family.
Be bloody wary of people who do too much
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for you.
Right?
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It's like if you have a mother or any
other relatives for that matter,
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who's fattening you up on mercy and
candy,
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the probability that her basic goal is
to eat you enough so that you never
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leave.
The probability is extraordinarily high
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and that's no joke.
You know,
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one of the things that you do learn if
you read about the sorts of people who
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burst out of their mother's basement and
go shoot up Dawson colleges that often.
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That's exactly the situation that you've
been,
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right.
They're burning with resentment in their
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uselessness down in the basement for
five or six years,
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you know,
they don't have to leave,
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they don't have to become independent,
everything's done for them.
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So they never have to do anything for
themselves.
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It's like it's not pretty.
And so one of the rules for dealing with
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people,
and I know this is actually a rule for
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dealing with elderly people in,
in,
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in,
in,
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in hopes for,
for,
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for retired people,
is do not do anything for anyone they
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can do for themselves.
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You are stealing from them when you do
that.
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And it's a great rule of thumb for kits.
Like once they can dress themselves,
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they dress themselves.
If they can set the table,
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even if it takes 20 minutes,
it's like they're setting the table.
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You're not doing them a favor by helping
them do anything they can do themselves
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and it gets Kinda,
it's Kinda harsh,
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you know,
but it beats the hell out of the witch
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in Hansel and Gretel.
So.
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So anyways,
one of the things we're going to look at
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as well as the dark side of positive
motivations.