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first day of week, date and hour independent of locale #283

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nbbn opened this issue Jan 9, 2017 · 9 comments
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first day of week, date and hour independent of locale #283

nbbn opened this issue Jan 9, 2017 · 9 comments
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@nbbn
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nbbn commented Jan 9, 2017

Hello,
I see that first day of week, date and hours depends on language selected in profile, but I believe that there should be option to select mix of those settings like 24h clock, ISO dates and Sunday as first day of week. Ability to change those settings is in almost every calendar software.
I use 11.0 version.
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@georgehrke
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georgehrke commented Jan 9, 2017

won't fix. / won't implement dedicated first day of week choice / 12h/24h option

The nextcloud server will introduce a region option instead.
nextcloud/server#1781

@pmyadlowsky
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Time/date format is a personal choice and should be independent of any language or region setting. Please reconsider the "won't fix" decision.

@Progdrasil
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I agree with @pmyadlowsky , this is a personal choice. Please reconsider

@bboissy
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bboissy commented May 13, 2019

hi, i also agree with @pmyadlowsky and @Progdrasil.
Edit : problem solved when setting language and regionnal settings. My fault !!

@jhpratt
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jhpratt commented Jun 14, 2019

@georgehrke Just because my locale is the United States doesn't mean I want my calendar to show Sunday as the first day of the week. I also prefer ISO (YYYY-MM-DD) formats, yet there's no option to change this.

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baermb commented Sep 3, 2022

I would also like this to be reconsidered. I'm going to hate myself a little bit for using this term, bu the following is a 'user story' as to why I think adding three separate preferences (at least a 12/24 hour one) would be better.

I want to set is 12/24 time, 1st day of week, short/long date format. The idea of using locales sounds simple, but I think ends up being pretty user unfriendly.

It appears what I have to do in order to find the right combination, is go down the list of locales one by one until I get lucky. Doing this feels either extremely foolish or purposefully masochistic. I would prefer to think I'm purposefully masochistic. But either way, I tried to do this. TLDR: I can't.

English (World), 12 hour clock, really? okay.
English (Europe), 12 hour clock, (I guess this is for Paris, TX)
English for each of the following is also 12 hour clocks:
United Arab Emirates, Antigua and Barbados, Anguilla, American Somoa, Austria, Australia, Barbados, Belgium, Burundi, Bermuda, Bahamas, Botswana, Belize, Canada, Cocos, Switzerland, Cook Islands, Cameroon, Christmas Island, Cyprus, Germany, Diego Garcia, Denmark, Dominica, Eritrea, Finland, Fiji, Falkland Islands, Micronesia, Granada, Guernsey, Ghana, Gibralter, Gambia, Guam, Guyana, Hong Kong, Isle of Man (really?), India, Jersey, Jamaica, Kenya, Kiribati, Caymans, St. Lucia, Liberia, Lesotho, Madagascar, Marshall Islands, Macao, Montserrat, Malta, Mauritius, a whole bunch I don't feel like typing, Netherlands (because Really?), Another whole bunch I'm too lazy to type.

English for the following are 24 hour clocks, but of course these all start on Monday (not how I want to do it), and these all do day/month/year, again not how I do it (like a commenter above, I like the ISO year-month-day):
United Kingdom, Ireland, Israel, Singapore.

Also, weirdly, this long list isn't in alphabetical order which makes finding a particular locale even harder.

In order to set three options, I have to go through ~50 choices. None of these matches what I'm actually looking for. And this is just for English. I can imagine there is a good programmatic reason for doing this (e.g. date object in a library that uses locales), but from a user perspective, it seems difficult, and in my case impossible, to set three seemingly simple preferences.

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ctag commented Jan 12, 2023

Sifting through locales randomly to find one that just happens to display the calendar and clock correctly feels like visiting one of those prank javascript pages that demos the worst ways to interact with a UI element. I do not understand how this is the intended behavior.

@kn0wmad
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kn0wmad commented Jan 9, 2024

Bump. Any chance to get a 24hr clock? This is a very popular standard and an option across all kinds of software. I was shocked and annoyed that I could not do this in a piece of software like this.

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